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Author: the Union position. Thanks!   Date: 2/18/2024 12:06:13 AM  +1/-0   Show Orig. Msg (this window) Or  In New Window

Communication was recently sent out by AMC management that has caused some confusion with Pilots scheduling their recurrent training. The messaging seemed to imply that a Pilot is “required” to schedule and attend recurrent training only during their off time, and that a Pilot is required to get “Pre-approval” from their RAD prior to self-scheduling their recurrent training. Neither of these statements are complete or accurate leading to the confusion and some misinterpretation of the actual rules set forth in the CBA. 

 

To provide some background, during contract negotiations the Company proposed that Pilots would be required to attend recurrent training only on their off time. The Union counter proposed that a Pilot would then be required to receive no less than 12 hours of workover pay, if they were required to attend recurrent training only during their off time. The Company did not agree to pay for the minimum of 12 hours of workover, and the Union did not agree to the Company’s proposal to "require" a Pilot attend recurrent training only during their off-time. In the end, concessions were made by both parties, which led to the current language in the CBA. 

 

Like workover, the rules for scheduling recurrent training are sequential and laid out in a step-by-step process in Article 15, Section 15.1. 

 

Below is clarification on the self-scheduling process, as outlined in the current CBA. (reference CBA Article 15, Section 15.1)

 

Step 1-PILOT 'SELF' SCHEDULES: The training department is responsible for scheduling recurrent training by means of the Pilot self-scheduling themselves (currently via CompleteFlight), and by their "attempting" to schedule recurrent during their off-shift time. 

 

Step 2-RAD APPROVAL, 'IF' REQUIRED:  If a "Pilot" self-schedules recurrent training on their normally scheduled work shift period, the RAD is then required to identify this via the training calendar and either “approve” that request, or to deny it advancing it to the next step of the process. A Pilot is not required have their self scheduled dates “pre-approved” by the RAD or to seek “prior” permission when initially self-scheduling with the "training department." With that said, prior approval or notice to the RAD would not be unwarranted for the sake of mutual cooperation and is always highly encouraged by the Union, but again it is not required. We were very specific about this language during negotiations, which led to the terms "attempt to" and "encouraged" being in Section 15.1, much like the term "endeavor" is used in other citations within the Agreement. 

 

The Union continues to encourage that Pilots self schedule on their off-time to minimize potential out-of-service time and we also encourage Management (the RAD's) to be reasonable and respectful to Pilot availability and their obligations during their "off" work time.

 

Step 3- SELF RE-RESCHEDULE, NO RAD APPROVAL REQUIRED: 

If the RAD denies the initial request to attend recurrent training on a normally scheduled shift period, the Pilot is then only "encouraged" to re-schedule their recurrent training on their off-shift period(s). Again, “encouraged,” not required. At this point, the RAD is out of the process per the CBA and it is now exclusively between the Pilot and the Training Department to "agree" to "alternate dates." 

 

NOTE: THE 60-DAY MARK: If a Pilot fails to self-schedule their recurrent training 60 days prior to the first day of their base month, the "Company" can assign “mandatory” recurrent training dates.

 

Remember, it is your duty to maintain your currency and schedule training in a timely manner in accordance with the CBA. It is also the obligation and duty of the training department and management to not impede or restrict your ability to maintain and meet your currency requirements based on your availability and the rules set forth on the CBA.

 

By working together, keeping each other informed, and being 'reasonable' with each other, we can mitigate much of the confusion and any potential conflicts in the best interest of everyone involved. 

 

If you have issues with a manager or the training department not cooperating with your availability or being unreasonable with your schedule, please do not hesitate to contact your Regional Steward immediately.
 
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Hey union boy. Hate to be the bearer of bad news for you but +1/-1 the CBA you speak of has this: 2/17/2024 4:56:34 PM