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Author: Anonymous Date: 11/26/2022 10:41:35 AM +0/-3 Show Orig. Msg (this window) Or In New Window

If you duty off at 0800 and fly home commerically, what time can you begin your next Part 135.267(d) duty period?

According to your duty/time sheet in this case, 1800. Is that accurate? Is that legal? Is that properly logged?

FAR 135.63(a)(4)

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HAA ‘pool pilots’ +2/-3 GOM Flyer 11/25/2022 3:52:00 PM

Point of Information! If you are commuting on your day off +3/-4 it's NOT a day off! 11/25/2022 4:04:55 PM

AMC National Pool Pilot +5/-1 B&W 11/25/2022 4:17:32 PM

AMC National Pool Pilot +3/-2 what he said 11/25/2022 5:16:43 PM

"local in nature" is considered a quick drive to a hotel from airport +0/-2 or your normal commute to/from work 11/26/2022 8:37:35 AM

AMC National Pool Pilot +1/-4 OP 11/25/2022 5:23:04 PM

Point of Information! If you are commuting on your day off +0/-2 Is it 11/25/2022 4:43:37 PM

Point of Information! If you are commuting on your day off +0/-1 I don’t duty in for travel. 11/25/2022 5:38:04 PM

You are REQUIRED to keep a duty log. That's duty! +1/-1 Can't prove your 13 days off if you ... 11/25/2022 6:21:08 PM

You are REQUIRED to keep a duty log. That's duty! +2/-1 Example A 11/25/2022 9:06:39 PM

Dude needs to google pedantic (NT) +1/-0 Anonymous 11/25/2022 9:51:37 PM

You should google willful ignorance.... (NT) +0/-1 135.63 11/26/2022 8:48:46 AM

Technically, the Certificate Holders is REQUIRED to keep such record +0/-0 but they've delegated it to the pilot 11/26/2022 8:58:05 AM

IOWs, you not showing duty for your company travel jeopardizes THEIR (NT) +0/-1 certificate in addition to yours! 11/26/2022 9:49:28 AM

No such thing as 135 duty time. It either just duty or its just not! (NT) +0/-0 Duty is duty, 135, 121, 91, all the same 11/27/2022 3:15:52 PM

Point of Information! If you are commuting on your day off +1/-1 ALPO 11/26/2022 6:43:11 AM

Nope! Referring to Part 135 too! Deadheading is deadheading because it (NT) +1/-2 is a DUTY (work) to certificate holder 11/26/2022 8:27:19 AM

Nope! Referring to Part 135 too! Deadheading is deadheading because it +1/-0 Riddle me this 11/26/2022 10:10:57 AM

Why would you need 10 hrs of rest to fly commercial? +1/-2 Anonymous 11/26/2022 10:29:19 AM

Let me ask this turning it around.... +0/-3 Anonymous 11/26/2022 10:41:35 AM

Let me ask this turning it around.... +6/-0 You’re going off duty for seven days 11/26/2022 11:13:52 AM

Let me ask this turning it around.... +0/-0 Who gives 11/26/2022 12:12:53 PM

Let me ask this turning it around.... +1/-0 When I step off the airplane at 11/26/2022 12:18:30 PM

Let me ask this turning it around.... +0/-0 Straight to 11/26/2022 12:28:48 PM

They don't ramp check pilots deadheading (because they aren't +0/-0 acting as flight crewmembers there) 11/26/2022 1:39:26 PM

6 days, so your proof of 13 off in a quarter is already (NT) +0/-1 not based on accurate record keeping 11/26/2022 12:37:12 PM

6 days, so your proof of 13 off in a quarter is already +1/-0 Well in that case 11/26/2022 12:54:26 PM

All my duty time is properly documented on the report (NT) +0/-1 bearing my signature. 11/26/2022 1:19:28 PM

All my duty time is properly documented on the report +0/-0 So is mine 11/26/2022 1:46:29 PM

no because you are doing at YOU leisure. +0/-1 But... 11/26/2022 1:50:46 PM

6 days, so your proof of 13 off in a quarter is already +1/-0 it's kind of like currency 11/26/2022 3:54:09 PM

Except this is an opposite effect type of logging.... +0/-1 For instance, .... 11/26/2022 4:05:37 PM

Except this is an opposite effect type of logging.... +0/-0 so don't trust my duty log 11/26/2022 4:29:41 PM

Except this is an opposite effect type of logging.... +0/-0 opposite effect logging 11/26/2022 4:30:36 PM

You're being trite! (NT) +0/-0 Anonymous 11/27/2022 1:42:42 PM

Pole vaulting over mouse turds! (NT) +3/-0 get a life 11/26/2022 2:48:25 PM

Point of Information! If you are commuting on your day off +2/-1 Enough Already. 11/26/2022 3:08:32 PM

doesn't happen where I work! where do you work for (NT) +0/-0 many years? 11/26/2022 3:20:39 PM

Point of Information! If you are commuting on your day off +1/-1 Actually 11/26/2022 3:21:05 PM

Point of Information! If you are commuting on your day off +2/-0 ALPO 11/26/2022 4:55:24 PM

Point of Information! If you are commuting on your day off +1/-0 That’s for 121 ops 11/26/2022 5:27:35 PM

just the opposite: they are deadheading, not commuting (NT) +1/-1 company sends them to assignments 11/26/2022 7:10:49 PM

Point of Information! If you are commuting on your day off +0/-1 Just 11/26/2022 7:47:24 PM

Point of Information! If you are commuting on your day off +0/-1 Historically 11/26/2022 9:00:17 PM

Point of Information! If you are commuting on your day off +0/-1 Anonymous 11/26/2022 10:33:47 PM

For those who think this is a trite matter: +0/-1 Anonymous 11/26/2022 10:50:06 PM

For those who think this is a trite matter: +0/-0 you may want to look up the word 11/26/2022 11:37:23 PM

For those who think this is a [lacking the freshness that evokes attention (NT) +0/-0 or interest] matter: 11/26/2022 11:47:58 PM

For those who think this is a [lacking the freshness that evokes attention +0/-2 Your here 11/27/2022 9:56:31 AM

Isn't the expression "Nobody Cares" a bit trite? (NT) +1/-1 Trite Lives Matter! 11/27/2022 1:34:02 PM

For those who think this is a [lacking the freshness that evokes attention +0/-1 you meant trifling 11/27/2022 12:50:22 PM

For those who think this is a [lacking the freshness that evokes attention +0/-0 Pretty sure 11/27/2022 3:31:29 PM

Nope. It is called a "t-r-i-k-e" (NT) +0/-0 very sure 11/27/2022 5:47:03 PM

HAA ‘pool pilots’

+2/-0 POINT OF INFORMATION! 11/28/2022 9:39:31 AM

FAA cares: +0/-0 Anonymous 11/28/2022 10:17:59 AM

FAA cares: +0/-0 35 years ago 11/28/2022 10:56:04 AM

FAA cares: +0/-0 Classic 11/28/2022 11:11:29 AM

IOWs, they've been caring about it for several DECADES (NT) +0/-0 and they still do! 11/28/2022 12:17:35 PM

FAA cares: +0/-1 Ok so 11/28/2022 11:02:28 AM

We're talking about a Relief Pilot travelling for the company +1/-0 not a pilot commuting to/from work 11/28/2022 12:09:03 PM

didn't see any mention of (NT) +0/-0 driving to work 11/28/2022 11:31:15 AM

didn't see any mention of +0/-0 I’m gonna need 11/28/2022 11:33:49 AM

Deadhead travel is not about driving to work, its about (NT) +0/-0 deadhead travel! 11/28/2022 12:18:53 PM

travel is travel genius, time spent commuting (NT) +0/-0 to work. Thanks for playing 11/28/2022 2:15:32 PM

A relief/pool pilot traveling from home to his temporarily assigned +1/-0 base is not commuting to work! 11/28/2022 5:39:18 PM

A relief/pool pilot traveling from home to his temporarily assigned +0/-0 I know 11/28/2022 6:30:20 PM

Going home from where? Is the company paying you to travel? (NT) +0/-0 If yes, then your on DUTY 11/28/2022 6:34:21 PM

Going home from where? Is the company paying you to travel? +0/-0 I know 11/28/2022 6:56:00 PM

That makes it intentional! (NT) +0/-0 Anonymous 11/28/2022 6:57:35 PM

travel not local in nature cannot be considered +0/-0 "rest" That's all there is, 11/28/2022 7:07:25 PM

travel not local in nature cannot be considered +0/-1 how many different ways can I tell you 11/28/2022 7:18:03 PM

well then... not even an ASAP/ASRA can help you (NT) +0/-1 Anonymous 11/28/2022 8:33:07 PM

well then... not even an ASAP/ASRA can help you +1/-1 Would you 11/28/2022 8:41:47 PM

since it is not something directed by the company, no (NT) +0/-1 it is totally your discretion. 11/28/2022 8:54:18 PM

well then... not even an ASAP/ASRA can help you +0/-1 or C. 11/28/2022 9:58:16 PM

and yet you keep posting... (NT) +0/-2 interesting 11/28/2022 10:48:12 PM

and yet you keep posting... +0/-1 not really 11/29/2022 3:42:56 AM

HAA ‘pool pilots’ +0/-1 Anonymous 12/1/2022 10:15:04 AM

HAA ‘pool pilots’ +0/-1 Come on 12/2/2022 5:34:21 PM

HAA ‘pool pilots’ +0/-0 Anonymous 12/6/2022 1:01:19 PM