Work over, shift coverage and overtime

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Author: Are voluntary Date: 6/14/2022 12:16:23 PM +2/-0 Show Orig. Msg (this window) Or In New Window

A judge can not make me work more than my scheduled shifts. A judge can not make me do anything. If I want to do extra work, whatever you want to call it, I will. If I don't want to do extda work, I will. Sounds like you are pressuring me to do something that I am not obligated to do.

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Federal Court Orders To Stop Refusing Overtime +1/-13 (July 2019) 6/14/2022 10:11:36 AM

Federal Court Orders To Stop Refusing Overtime +1/-1 I don’t think it’s illegal to refuse 6/14/2022 10:27:45 AM

Federal Court Orders To Stop Refusing Overtime +2/-1 Pilots are in the drivers seat. 6/14/2022 10:31:09 AM

Atlas will ask the court to sanction the union! (NT) +0/-1 Anonymous 6/14/2022 10:04:12 PM

Federal Court Orders To Stop Refusing Overtime +0/-0 It's totally academic 6/14/2022 10:44:08 AM

Sanctions (Fines) are hardly academic! (NT) +0/-0 Anonymous 6/14/2022 10:05:11 PM

Federal Court Orders To Stop Refusing Overtime +0/-0 Yeah, 6/16/2022 12:55:52 PM

Federal Court Orders To Stop Refusing Overtime +0/-0 Depends 6/14/2022 4:04:57 PM

Ruling went no where as the federal appeals court ruled they lacked +0/-0 Jurisdiction. Voluntary is pretty simple 6/15/2022 11:01:21 AM

Appeals Court AFFIRMED the decision, and added a few more of +0/-0 points of their own. 6/15/2022 6:09:54 PM

Federal Court Orders To Stop Refusing Overtime +0/-0 Depends 6/16/2022 12:55:02 PM

False. Courts don’t have authority over “voluntary” workover rules +2/-0 Not the same thing. Wrong again! 6/14/2022 10:32:26 AM

That *WAS* the Appeals Court Order! (NT) +0/-1 Reading it would have helped you there! 6/14/2022 10:35:36 AM

Here's another article about it: +0/-3 Federal Appeals Court Ruling 6/14/2022 11:08:42 AM

The fact you are using the term “illegal” proves your lack of (NT) +3/-0 Legal comprehension. Not applicable 6/14/2022 11:20:38 AM

The article is outdated and overturned. This was for an unauthorized and (NT) +0/-0 Confirmed “work action.” Fake news 6/14/2022 11:21:41 AM

Here's another article about it: +0/-0 Refusing 6/14/2022 4:08:59 PM

It explains it in the court rulings.... +1/-1 Historically, company plans for it. 6/14/2022 6:18:57 PM

False.RLA and NMB specifically describe the steps in the process including +0/-0 Direct negotiations until a stalemate 6/15/2022 10:54:03 AM

A few things in response: +0/-0 Anonymous 6/15/2022 6:57:36 PM

Fake News. “Voluntary” for workover is NOT an expectation by the standard (NT) +0/-0 Set by the court. Try again 6/15/2022 10:55:08 AM

Federal court lacks jurisdiction and cannot FORCE “voluntary” workover (NT) +1/-0 Your “citation” does NOT apply 6/14/2022 10:33:54 AM

Federal Court Orders To Stop Refusing Overtime +5/-0 Overtime Is Not The Same As An 6/14/2022 11:29:58 AM

Have you voiced your concerns to the Union? If not, you are complicit (NT) +0/-0 As u said. A union is its “members” 6/14/2022 11:53:56 AM

An anonymous doesn’t count…. (NT) +0/-0 We will all wait for your contributions 6/14/2022 11:54:36 AM

Work over, shift coverage and overtime +2/-0 Are voluntary 6/14/2022 12:16:23 PM

A judge can fine your union, however, which is fining you (NT) +0/-0 Anonymous 6/14/2022 2:23:07 PM

Federal Court Orders To Stop Refusing Overtime +1/-0 To be illegal 6/14/2022 1:02:21 PM

There is, the RLA, which prohibits slowdowns and economic (NT) +0/-0 actions during (Section 6) negotiations 6/14/2022 1:23:20 PM

Individuals have rights according to the courts and “voluntary” is made (NT) +0/-0 Very clear in the rulings 6/14/2022 1:48:23 PM

"...very clear in the rulings." Where, show us! (NT) +0/-0 Anonymous 6/14/2022 2:21:49 PM

Still waiting for your source for the union pushing for work actions… (NT) +0/-0 Still waiting 6/14/2022 2:28:52 PM

You already provided it! Now it's the Union's DUTY to (NT) +0/-0 condemn it! 6/14/2022 2:50:37 PM

FALSE! Here you go though. We the Union condemn ur actions on the anonymous +0/-0 Forum the law and bylaws 6/14/2022 2:53:41 PM

You just provided it again... You are a union member advocating for (NT) +0/-0 a work slowdown/no workover campaign 6/14/2022 3:01:53 PM

"... is a violation of the law..."? (NT) +0/-0 How is it a violation of the law? 6/14/2022 4:06:54 PM

"... is a violation of the law..."? +0/-0 It isn’t 6/14/2022 4:13:37 PM

You're right! So why did you say bringing union business to a public forum +0/-0 is against the law?? 6/14/2022 5:22:02 PM

Another tin foil hat theory by (NT) +0/-0 Jimmie the Mayors 6/15/2022 10:55:47 AM

There is, the RLA, which prohibits slowdowns and economic +0/-0 Not volunteering 6/14/2022 6:29:12 PM

Voluntary overtime (NT) +0/-1 Is voluntary 6/14/2022 6:53:33 PM

Until a Court orders the Union otherwise (NT) +0/-0 Anonymous 6/14/2022 8:10:32 PM

Until a Court orders the Union otherwise +0/-0 oldNtired 6/14/2022 8:23:46 PM

New Woke World? RLA was enacted in 1926 & amended in 1934 & 1936 (NT) +0/-0 It's been around for quite some time! 6/14/2022 9:27:29 PM

Until a Court orders the Union otherwise +1/-1 A court can order a union 6/15/2022 12:11:16 AM

... and causes your union to be fined/sanctioned +0/-0 Anonymous 6/15/2022 8:47:58 AM

Again your citation is for sanctioned slow downs BY the Union (NT) +0/-0 Don’t see that going on here 6/15/2022 11:04:33 AM

Sure you do... uniin pilot's and agents are here pushing for it +1/-0 you included. Whisper campaigns 6/15/2022 5:25:59 PM

Encouraged slowdowns by workers when the Union fails to stop/quell/denounce (NT) +0/-0 it. You skipped over that part of ruling 6/15/2022 6:47:52 PM

Federal Court Orders To Stop Refusing Overtime +0/-1 just sayin' 6/14/2022 8:26:11 PM

Depends on who they work for! If it is an air carrier, they cannot strike +0/-0 If they work for a public operator.... 6/14/2022 9:57:11 PM

Work over, shift coverage and overtime (NT) +0/-0 Are voluntary 6/14/2022 10:23:48 PM

Wasn't for Atlas Pilots recently +0/-0 Anonymous 6/14/2022 10:58:10 PM

Here is the Court's ruling. Long, but clearly explained. +0/-0 Relevant excerpt's cited: 6/15/2022 9:09:06 AM

Shift coverage work over and over time are voluntary (NT) +0/-0 Overtime is voluntary 6/15/2022 9:14:23 AM

Voluntarily, and subject to sanctions by a court for changing (NT) +0/-0 Status Quo for not volunteering !! 6/15/2022 9:30:59 AM

Overtime is voluntary (NT) +0/-0 Not t mandatory 6/15/2022 10:33:00 AM

Until a Court determines folks, like you here, are encouraging ILLEGAL +0/-0 bad faith bargaining tactics! 6/15/2022 6:46:02 PM

These were supported actions by the union with evidence of their (NT) +0/-0 “Campaign.” Not the same or even close 6/15/2022 10:59:46 AM

As always you only present part of an issue and are selective in the messag (NT) +0/-0 Still no integrity or transparency JM 6/15/2022 11:03:26 AM

That's funny, since theink to the WHOLE reference was provuded +0/-0 All you need to do is read them. 6/15/2022 7:10:06 PM

Doesn’t seem the Union is scared or playing into your propaganda… (NT) +2/-1 Proud Union !!! 6/15/2022 11:16:31 AM

Status quo +0/-0 Status quo 6/15/2022 11:22:07 AM

See, once again you admitted it is union instigated and/or (NT) +0/-0 endorsed. 6/15/2022 5:51:37 PM

See, once again you admitted it is union instigated and/or +0/-0 the union can endorse 6/15/2022 6:16:20 PM

Guess we will wait too see if AMC sues the Union and it’s members….doubt it (NT) +1/-1 Union Strong! 6/15/2022 1:39:55 PM

Their first course of action is to get an NMB mediator, who will +0/-0 They have begun that already. 6/15/2022 6:59:17 PM

Stating fact is not a hole +0/-0 Fact 6/15/2022 8:29:45 PM

Illegal for courts to do so. PIC final authority +0/-0 Sicko 6/17/2022 7:10:37 AM

Not forcing you to do anything, just sanctioning your union (NT) +0/-0 for their ILLEGAL wildcat actions 6/17/2022 8:04:04 AM

Overtime is voluntary (NT) +0/-0 Work over is voluntary 6/17/2022 11:48:03 AM