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Author: from below.   Date: 10/21/2021 8:58:25 AM  +8/-1  

Can this possibly be real? 


Go onto the Faa website.


https://www.faa.gov/foia/foia_coordinators/regional_service_centers/?region=asw   under the freedom of information act there is a request form that you fill out requesting All information of the supposedly violation. You can use a email that is not one you normally use on the site. Gather the date, time and  as close to the location of the incident as possibl.


this happened to me this pass May. Landing at a school to pick up my son. With prior approval and landing site.


in class "C" and having to circle about 7 minutes before my LZ was cleared. And the wife that teaches at the school over seeing the LZ and no one out on school campus except her (kids were still in last hour)


BUT the principal didn't inform the school deputies of the arrangement.


Well here comes Barnie Fife coming around the corner all ready talking to dispatch to contact the Faa.


he proceeded to pull me out of the helicopter before shutdown and I told him he'd better back off until I shut down or he'd be responsible for the safety of others.


principal showed up and straighten things out. Just had to wait about 10 minutes after the crap until we could take off.  200' agl contacted tower with intentions and approval ...500' agl 04X  we have a number for you to call.


call was to the tower  asking for contact information


a week later Faa called and asked what happened  proceed to answer.. but before he could talk to me  he had to send me the pilots bill of rights have me read it and email him back stating that I understood it.


He ask that I send him a statement of MY VIOLATION. I proceeded to explain that I wasn't reckless OR put anyone or anything  in danger  as he was stating.


this is what I sent him.   short and nothing more!


Mr. ???????,
On May 14 1:32 PM local, I picked up my son at a designated landing area on school grounds with weeks prior permission and approval from the principal.
The School security was not informed of my arrival.


statment from the deputy   


Good morning,
In regards to the helicopter landing that took place on 5/14/21 at the landing occurred at approximately 1331 hours in the rear of campus. Pilot landed the aircraft approximately 40-50 yards from the 600 building on the Northwest Corner of campus right at main dismissal. When I approached the aircraft at approximately 1335 hours, there were already more than 40 children gathering in the rear of the building while the helicopter was grounded with rotor still slightly spinning.
Upon instructing Mr pilot to shut down the aircraft and exit said craft, he did so and advised me that he had permission from Principal  to pick up his son from school in the helicopter. Mr Principal met with all parties in the rear of the campus and confirmed that permission was granted, however, he stated that 2:00pm was the time he instructed Mr pilot to land and pick up. Mr pilot said his son told him 1:30 pm was acceptable so that is where the mix up occurred. Full-time Sheriff Deputies who man the campus of the school daily were not made aware of prior approval of the landing which caused emergency response from multiple Deputies. It seems as though the event was simply an event designed to draw attention, especially when the other parent works at the school and drives to/from daily.
In my opinion, there are far too many dangers involved with landing an aircraft within close proximity to a building, especially a school building with children. The school owns several acres of property which could have more safely been used to land the aircraft. While students stayed a safe distance from the helicopter, there were simply too many moving parts to include hundreds of cars utilizing a roadway in the front and rear of school. Had Law Enforcement been advised prior to, permission would not have been given by us due to the many variable and concerns for safety.
Marty the deputy 
Monday, May 17, 2021 7:38 AM
 (FAA)
Helicopter Incident
Respectfully


About a week or so  later the Faa called me and ask me what I learned from this incident (keep in mind I didn't see or know how many statements were mad to the Faa)


I kept asking what incident or violation. He kept repeating reckless and indangermen.


and I kept repeating that  no one was any danger or was I reckless check the records of the tower and the voice recordings where I circled until the LZ was clear.


well the Faa stated that he had several statements from deputies and a few from school officials and parents


and who would a judge believe the cops or me. he stated the judge would believe the officials ,...not the PILOT   The one in the drivers seat.


well we agreed to both disagree.


so I told him probably what I may have learned was to trust but verify


Faa informed me that I will be on watch for 2 years and told don't screw up again   I believe this was a form of Intimidation


under the FOIA I obtained the 2 statements and  that  son of a B!!,h at the  Faa was lying to me. There was only one complaint / statement from the  Cops. The other was from the principal explaining the permission and the mixup.


Well I don't trust the FAA  but I am verifying my records.


if you made it this far


just my .02 of what happened to me


 


 

 
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I really think this deserves its own thread +8/-1 from below. 10/21/2021 8:58:25 AM