POI can't make new regulations! No FAR requirement for a 14-hour

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Author: duty day under FAR 135.267(d) Date: 10/4/2021 3:15:36 PM +0/-0 Show Orig. Msg (this window) Or In New Window

We don't operate under FAR 135.267(c), so ther isn't a duty day maximum. We operate under FAR 135.267(d) and can plan to fly Part 135 up to 14 hours, but there isn't a restriction on duty. Can't start rest until off duty, whenever that happens. Scheduled duty is not the same as actual duty, as you cited out above, CBA requires a pilot to exceed 12 hrs for revenue flights, as does "end of scheduled shift" meetings, "end of scheduled shift" drug testing, "end of scheduled shift" training, and "end of scheduled shift" travel, etc

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Air Methods Salary +0/-3 Johnny Dingo 10/3/2021 9:50:42 AM

Air Methods Salary +5/-3 About 10/3/2021 10:00:41 AM

It’s on the Unions website. Entire contract is. (NT) +0/-0 Good luck 10/3/2021 10:22:23 AM

It’s on the Unions website. Entire contract is. +0/-1 yeah, good luck 10/3/2021 10:30:56 AM

Nothing to figure out. It’s black and white with numbers….. (NT) +1/-1 Reading and numbers are hard 10/3/2021 10:45:38 AM

Nothing to figure out. It’s black and white with numbers….. +1/-0 not you again 10/3/2021 1:17:49 PM

Nothing to figure out. It’s black and white with numbers….. +2/-1 you're right, nothing to figure out 10/3/2021 1:40:19 PM

False. Starting pay $73,808 and 3.25% for every year (NT) +0/-0 So easy it’s complicated for you 10/4/2021 12:14:22 PM

Wait, if 5bere is a "salary" prescribed by the CBA, why did +0/-0 the CA pilot's file a lawsuit? 10/6/2021 10:05:56 AM

3.25% annually. starting salary based on experience. (NT) +0/-1 You are NOT very smart are you… 10/3/2021 8:28:36 PM

3.25% annually. starting salary based on experience. +0/-0 I think 10/3/2021 9:31:06 PM

3.25% annually. starting salary based on experience. +0/-0 Salary based on experience is not 10/4/2021 8:56:48 AM

Appendix A in CBA are the numbers. (NT) +0/-0 3.25% after that. It’s not hard 10/4/2021 11:52:11 AM

Appendix A in CBA are the numbers. +0/-0 not hard but 10/4/2021 12:02:31 PM

Starting pay is listed. Simple as that. $73,808 (NT) +0/-0 Spoon fed snowflake 10/4/2021 12:13:14 PM

Starting pay is listed. Simple as that. $73,808 +0/-0 no it isn't 10/4/2021 12:24:53 PM

Starting pay is listed. Simple as that. $73,808 +0/-0 what it say 10/4/2021 12:29:54 PM

Starting pay is listed. Simple as that. $73,808 +0/-0 And if you think they are 10/4/2021 1:13:06 PM

Starting pay is listed. Simple as that. $73,808 +0/-0 Anonymous 10/5/2021 7:37:43 AM

Starting pay is listed. Simple as that. $73,808 +0/-0 uh 10/5/2021 10:38:17 AM

Starting pay is listed. Simple as that. $73,808 +1/-0 it would NOT 10/5/2021 11:06:08 AM

It’s on the Unions website. Entire contract is. +0/-0 OP 10/4/2021 12:57:42 AM

Isn't that the contract that requires a pilot to take a flight (NT) +0/-0 past 12 hrs of duty? 10/4/2021 2:05:19 PM

Isn't that the contract that requires a pilot to take a flight +0/-0 up to 14 if flying 10/4/2021 2:13:20 PM

Total duty can exceed 14 hours. Can't plan a part 135 flight past 14, but (NT) +0/-1 you certainly can plan other duties 10/4/2021 2:17:25 PM

Total duty can exceed 14 hours. Can't plan a part 135 flight past 14, but +0/-0 Listen to the POI 10/4/2021 2:27:12 PM

POI can't make new regulations! No FAR requirement for a 14-hour +0/-0 duty day under FAR 135.267(d) 10/4/2021 3:15:36 PM

POI can't make new regulations! No FAR requirement for a 14-hour +0/-0 135.267(c) 10/4/2021 3:26:30 PM

Sorry, that is not correct. Per their GOM, they work under 135.267(d) +0/-0 Schedule is not regularly assigned. 10/4/2021 4:03:14 PM

Total duty can exceed 14 hours. +0/-0 Show us the signed letter from the FAA.. 10/5/2021 7:10:47 PM

He won't, because he can't, because there isn't one (NT) +0/-0 Anonymous 10/6/2021 9:57:48 AM

Absolutely nothing in the CBA "protects" a pilot to be back (NT) +0/-1 at his home base in 14 hours. Nada! 10/4/2021 2:20:11 PM

Absolutely nothing in the CBA "protects" a pilot to be back +1/-0 You're doing it wrong then 10/4/2021 2:29:57 PM

I agree if you can get back by 14 hrs, it's OK, but you can't (NT) +0/-0 pass on a flight simply because it's >12 10/4/2021 2:37:37 PM

...and nothing says you have to be back at your home base +0/-0 at the end of your "shift". Nada! 10/4/2021 2:41:44 PM

...and nothing says you have to be back at your home base +0/-0 Union says back at home base 10/4/2021 3:36:54 PM

Nothing in CBA says that! Nothng in FARs say that. (NT) +0/-0 Nothing in GOM says that. 10/4/2021 3:41:41 PM

Nothing in CBA says that! Nothng in FARs say that. +0/-0 Clarification from Union 10/4/2021 4:01:57 PM

Most of that guidance is rubbish. No back to base requirement. No 14 hr +0/-3 requirements. FAR 135.267(d) 10/4/2021 9:14:19 PM

Nothing in CBA says that! etc. +1/-0 Are you a slave to the company? 10/4/2021 4:09:55 PM

Air Methods Salary +2/-0 Buster brown 10/3/2021 6:13:15 PM

Air Methods Salary +0/-0 holy sh/t 10/4/2021 12:28:36 AM

Air Methods Salary +1/-0 That AMC 10/9/2021 10:14:31 PM

It got that way after pilot's took an incredibly easy job (NT) +1/-0 and routinely messed it up! 10/10/2021 9:29:17 PM

It got that way after pilot's took an incredibly easy job +0/-1 Management 10/11/2021 9:40:56 PM

It got that way after pilot's took an incredibly easy job +0/-0 Agree 10/13/2021 9:46:07 AM