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24 - 10 = 14 hrs for PART 135 ops, not PART 91 kos (NT)
24 - 10 = 14 hrs for PART 135 ops, not PART 91 kos (NT)
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See Slater (2015)
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1/13/2021 12:07:49 PM
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Where in any regulation or interpretation does it say this
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regarding Part 135 flight planning? 1/13/2021 8:45:12 AM
Where in any regulation or interpretation does it say this
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Ok 1/13/2021 9:05:45 AM
"Flight Assignment" is a thing. "14-hour Duty Assignment" is not
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That's the only confusion here 1/13/2021 9:15:39 AM
"Flight Assignment" is a thing. "14-hour Duty Assignment" is not
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philofthenorth 1/13/2021 9:29:22 AM
POI s would abide by FAA interpretations: Slater (2015) (NT)
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and Converse-RedWingAeroplane (2012) 1/13/2021 9:39:45 AM
POI s would abide by FAA interpretations: Slater (2015)
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And POIs 1/13/2021 10:50:21 AM
Kidd 2017 TRUMPS your Slater 2015 still....
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FAA Genera Counsel has already ruled 1/13/2021 10:57:41 AM
Except Kidd 2017 doesn't say anything to support tryout notion that (NT)
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Tail-end Part 91 ops are not ALLOWED 1/13/2021 11:43:51 AM
Not anything to do with the letter you reference from Union..... (NT)
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Quit whining Mayors. 1/13/2021 11:46:08 AM
Exactly, and since ther isn't any other FAA interpretation (NT)
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dealing with tail-end Part 91 ops .... 1/13/2021 2:42:06 PM
Exactly, and since ther isn't any other FAA interpretation (NT)
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dealing with tail-end Part 91 ops .... 1/13/2021 2:42:08 PM
POI s would abide by FAA interpretations: Slater (2015)
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POI POS 1/13/2021 2:55:53 PM
"Flight Assignment" is a thing. "14-hour Duty Assignment" is not
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Yeah, sure. 1/13/2021 10:48:38 AM
“DUTY PERIOD” is defined as starting and finishing work for certificate
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holder. Nothing in 135 regs LIMITING it 1/13/2021 11:52:31 AM
So you are now speculating on arbitrary terms? IOWs, tber (NT)
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Isn't anything supporting it directly 1/13/2021 11:46:10 AM
So you are saying “Duty Period” is NOT defined in FARs or GOM? (NT)
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You can’t be that ignorant 1/13/2021 11:47:01 AM
Shiw everyone in the GARs where is defines a
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"Duty Period Assignment" 1/13/2021 11:55:22 AM
Obviously FAR! (NT)
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Anonymous 1/13/2021 1:43:14 PM
How do you “Shiw” anyone, anything? (NT)
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Maybe this is the problem for you 1/13/2021 12:03:26 PM
*Show, obviously. If you are so either to read thing int FAR that aren't s (NT)
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You should have figured that out easily 1/13/2021 1:33:08 PM
*eager. *into (NT)
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Anonymous 1/13/2021 2:31:57 PM
FAR’s very clearly define distinct differences between flight assignment (NT)
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and DUTY PERIOD...read much? 1/13/2021 10:14:48 AM
Right! And nowhere does it limit a DUTY PERIOD to 14hrs (NT)
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It limits a FLIGHT ASSIGNMENT 1/13/2021 11:57:33 AM
Wrong. GOM and FAR along with several legal interpa for “planning” purposes
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Not to mention if 1/13/2021 12:23:48 PM
Not a single FAR or interpretation says that! None.
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Post them if otherwise! 1/13/2021 1:38:05 PM
If a pilot shows he ended his Part 135 segments within 14 hrs (NT)
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he is not in violation of 135.267 1/13/2021 1:58:14 PM
Agreed. Again, you miss the point (NT)
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Ignorant or stupid...only 1 1/13/2021 2:06:19 PM
What point? That you will be violated for NOT violating (NT)
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the FARs? Was that your point? 1/13/2021 2:34:09 PM
If not on rest, but acting on directive of certificate holder are you still (NT)
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On duty? Simple yes or no 1/13/2021 10:18:53 AM
Yes, but not limited to 14 hours. Just doesn't count as REST
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Just can't plan to Part 135 after 14 hrs 1/13/2021 11:59:48 AM
Yes, but not limited to 14 hours. Just doesn't count as REST (NT)
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FAA says start 135, end 135 1/13/2021 12:02:45 PM
No it doesn't, what it says is start a flight assignment 135, end it 135. (NT)
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But deny tail end Part 91 reassignment 1/13/2021 1:40:38 PM
Ie, see Slater 2015 (NT)
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Anonymous 1/13/2021 1:41:47 PM
Where in any regulation or interpretation does it say this
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If you 1/13/2021 10:45:29 AM
Using your advice, reading the rules DON'T demand a pilot fly back to base, (NT)
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deadhead, or can't Part 91 after 14 hrs 1/13/2021 12:05:56 PM
Using your advice, reading the rules DON'T demand a pilot fly back to base,
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You bring up 1/13/2021 3:55:39 PM
Someone is saying it VIOLATES regulations. That's cut and dry
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falsehoods. Regs don't say you must 1/13/2021 4:09:42 PM
Someone is saying it VIOLATES regulations. That's cut and dry
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I'm 1/14/2021 3:26:26 PM
Part 91 Corporate gigs often exceed 14hrs in a day (NT)
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operating that way for decades! 1/17/2021 12:19:48 AM
Where in any regulation or interpretation does it say this
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SENTENCE OF THE DAY 1/14/2021 1:47:38 AM
24 - 10 = 14 hrs for PART 135 ops, not PART 91 kos (NT)
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See Slater (2015) 1/13/2021 12:07:49 PM
Cite them! (NT)
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You never do! 1/13/2021 1:28:59 PM
24 - 10 = 14 hrs for PART 135 ops, not PART 91 kos
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True, 1/13/2021 3:57:54 PM
Why would it need to say you can mix them?? (NT)
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Why can't you is the question! 1/13/2021 9:37:55 PM
Feds do what they want and leave you
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to pick up the pieces 1/13/2021 9:32:14 PM
You call their boss and ask WTH FARs are universally applied. (NT)
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Not subject to individual fifedomes 1/13/2021 9:46:07 PM
You call their boss and ask WTH FARs are universally applied.
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OG 1/13/2021 10:47:50 PM
Slater (2015), Converse-RedWingAeroplane (2012) (NT)
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Anonymous 1/14/2021 8:26:59 AM
Part 91 Flight assignment after Part 135 Flight Assignment (NT)
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First before 14 hrs, second wherever 1/14/2021 8:29:52 AM
Feds do what they want and leave you
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No one 1/14/2021 3:37:48 PM
Where in any regulation or interpretation does it say this
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Oooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhh....... 1/14/2021 4:09:00 PM
yeah
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Anonymous 1/17/2021 1:09:21 AM
oh and let me save u the trouble
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Anonymous 1/17/2021 1:10:46 AM