It's apparent that these replies have a lot of "hate" in them for the 61. the 61 is not a difficult aircraft to fly at all. the hawk guys are always bashing the 61 for being a workhorse and still to this day, doing a great job. There are more out there flying then one may think. I think the blackhawk guys are just upset the 61 still has legs to go and each one out there is taking their hours away for them to play in their new toys.