| Msg ID: 2795594 |
Settling with Power +0/-1
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| Author:Satoshi method
10/5/2023 4:17:29 PM |
Anyone considering using this technique? |
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| Msg ID: 2795601 |
Settling with Power +0/-2
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| Author:no but
10/5/2023 4:49:46 PM Reply to: 2795594 |
did you know there’s a reason why PHI has lamps? it’s because… |
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| Msg ID: 2795602 |
Settling with Power +0/-1
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| Author:Best method
10/5/2023 4:54:46 PM Reply to: 2795601 |
Satoshi is ok, vurchard betterd, Kamikaze best |
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| Msg ID: 2795608 |
Settling with Power +4/-1
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| Author:Vuichard method causes accidents
10/5/2023 5:23:24 PM Reply to: 2795602 |
Ask the guys who chopped off their tail booms...wait you can't.
Satoshi method is the best. |
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| Msg ID: 2795626 |
not if it was properly performed it doesn't (NT) +0/-0
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| Author:Anonymous
10/5/2023 10:47:02 PM Reply to: 2795608 |
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| Msg ID: 2795611 |
better off spending your time perfecting +3/-3
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| Author:avoidance techniques...
10/5/2023 6:19:35 PM Reply to: 2795594 |
there's really no reason to ever get into VRS. |
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| Msg ID: 2796060 |
better off spending your time perfecting +0/-0
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| Author:Agree
10/14/2023 10:41:25 AM Reply to: 2795611 |
🤣🤩 |
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| Msg ID: 2795639 |
Avoidance is the key +3/-2
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| Author:VRS guy
10/6/2023 9:37:09 AM Reply to: 2795594 |
You don't see guys going out and doing full stalls in swept-wing jets and such. Too risky. Better to avoid those flight regimes altogether. We helicopter pilots don't have the benefit of stall-warners and stick-pushers, but our attitude should be the same: Avoidance. You have to be a real dunce to get into VRS. If you're coming down steeply and slowly (i.e. below ETL) and you're not sure where the wind is, you must be *hyper* aware of indications that you're entering VRS/SWP. In real life, VRS never happens up at a safe altitude where there's plenty of room to recover. It happens down low, at the bottom of a bad approach. And if it does happen then, you're probably going to crash no matter what technique you try to apply. So don't focus so much on how to get out of it - focus more on not getting into it. |
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| Msg ID: 2795649 |
Avoidance is the key +0/-2
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| Author:Easy for Mr Point A to point B to say
10/6/2023 10:03:15 AM Reply to: 2795639 |
SWP and stalling a jetliner is not apples to apples. Nothing in helicopters is apples to apples with jumbo Jets. Dunce. |
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| Msg ID: 2795656 |
Avoidance is the key +3/-1
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| Author:Heli pilot
10/6/2023 11:25:44 AM Reply to: 2795649 |
Agree w/VRS guy. There's absolutely no excuse for civilian pilots to not know where the winds are from. Not that Im holier than thou, I learned from the outset never to get trapped by Winds, Wx or wires. Retired now, had a good career, & a safe one. ( not to say I had plenty of oh sh-t moments, but that was my own doing. |
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| Msg ID: 2795657 |
Apples to Androids maybe? +0/-1
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| Author:The VRS guy
10/6/2023 11:28:21 AM Reply to: 2795649 |
Both are unnecessarily risky. In swept-wing airplanes, pilots only do approaches-to-stalls, not the real thing. (Oh, and I never mentioned "jumbo" jets, just jets in general. Even pilots of small, swept-wing jets don't do full stalls.) Yet we helicopter pilots want to go out and actually get into VRS when we've graphically seen how risky it can be. Obviously, not all r/w flying is Point A to Point B, we all know that and nobody needs to point it out. But sooner or later, we all have to land. And that's where the accidents happen. We don't have to actually experience VRS to learn how bad it is, and how to avoid it. |
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| Msg ID: 2795665 |
GOOD DISCUSSION +0/-1
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| Author:Anonymous
10/6/2023 2:18:08 PM Reply to: 2795594 |
Man, we can have good productive conversations here after all! |
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| Msg ID: 2795685 |
GOOD DISCUSSION +0/-3
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| Author:You are all stupid
10/7/2023 12:11:57 AM Reply to: 2795665 |
Just get out of the column who cares how you do it. |
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