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Msg ID: 2785416 The iconic Bell 212, aka UH 1N +5/-1     
Author:The lost Sound of Freedom
6/18/2023 11:59:43 AM

Ok, yea, after all is said and done, there really wasn't a Sound of Freedom, more like defeat, but it sounded good at the time.  And you have to admit, there is no other sound like a 212.  Had some fun in them over the years: Here you go...

https://youtu.be/wzuEwKDjlHg 

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Msg ID: 2785418 The iconic Bell 212, aka UH 1N +5/-0     
Author:Well
6/18/2023 12:05:54 PM

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I'd say the 214 sounds better...IMHO



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Msg ID: 2785427 The iconic Bell 212, aka UH 1N +0/-2     
Author:Funny
6/18/2023 2:29:47 PM

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They lost me at 'unparralled grace'  the end.



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Msg ID: 2785433 That Was Funny. I would Not Use Grace (NT) +0/-1     
Author:With A 212
6/18/2023 2:57:40 PM

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Msg ID: 2785480 The iconic Bell 212, aka UH 1N +4/-1     
Author:N Vietnam
6/18/2023 9:18:46 PM

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was setting to give up after their losses in TET '68 but the public outcry in the states convinced them all they had to do was lay low, requip and reman, and eventually the US would go away - absolute fact.  If the politicians in DC weren't so afraid China or Russia would get involved (like during the Korean War) things would have gone differently evidenced by the Christmas bombing of '72 success in bringing NV back to the peace talks which successfully concluded American ground involvement.  

There's a lot of misunderstanding as to American military service successes and otherwise in that war, and even more unknowns in previous wars not presented by American media via the nightly news.  Just think of our media today and what they were like back then.  There wasn't a huge difference!  They were almost absent in Korea and far less so in WWII.  

The big deal is there are no winners in war, and the sides are almost exclusively manned by allied nations, "win or lose", as scripted by the events and media and sucked up by innocent readers.

Given any conflict if you weren't there, you haven't a clue about the real results.

Flail away!



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Msg ID: 2785482 The iconic Bell 212, aka UH 1N +0/-1     
Author:Col Flagg
6/18/2023 9:28:12 PM

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If it wasn't for TV's M*A*S*H, most young people wouldn't even know we were involved in the war. 



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Msg ID: 2785483 ETA: In Korea (NT) +0/-1     
Author:C Flagg
6/18/2023 9:29:19 PM

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Msg ID: 2785487 The iconic Bell 212, aka UH 1N +1/-0     
Author:The War
6/18/2023 10:23:46 PM

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being set in the Korean conflict, I assume you mean.



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Msg ID: 2785481 The iconic Bell 212, aka UH 1N +1/-0     
Author:back when
6/18/2023 9:24:21 PM

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Everytime we did night training there was a gentleman in town that would call our Ops and poltitely ask our dispatcher if we could alter our flight plan because the rotors gave him flashbacks of a bad time in his life. It didn't help that his house was right under the ILS and night training was necessary. The 212's are gone now and I hope he has found peace in his life. 



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Msg ID: 2785488 The iconic Bell 212, aka UH 1N +1/-0     
Author:Participating
6/18/2023 10:31:09 PM

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in a war and meeting the potential of violent extinction of oneself and others has profound affects on all involved, many have no clue the changes that come about.  At least the fellow you mention recognizes his problematic trigger.  A start.



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Msg ID: 2785491 The iconic Bell 212, aka UH 1N +0/-0     
Author:Saw many
6/18/2023 10:40:18 PM

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In war, you don't have to spill blood to be wounded. 



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Msg ID: 2785561 The iconic Bell 212, aka UH 1N +1/-0     
Author:Absolutely
6/19/2023 10:52:39 PM

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Good clarification and addition.  Just living with fear wears one down mentally, way down, far more than can be understood by those who never experienced it (excepting good mental health types and even they are astonished at what they run in to).



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